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13 Dec 2013 13:53 #168238
by easyrider
Madiba was also a good man as was Ghandi but I would not want either of them captaining a test team.
I would keep the same team with the possible exception of swapping Narine for Shillingford. Gabriel has the tools, from what I have seen, and young seamers, like other players, need time to get used to that level and because of the paucity of your domestics competition, they will take longer.
I suspect this will be the end of Deonarine as he has not shown value for the opportunity he has been given by the manner in which he has been dismissed. He can, however, fill that number 6 position as he is quite handy.
Another finish in less than 3 days, again, and in quick succession means genuine, but not wholesale, changes are required as this has been a trend for a long time.
If one wishes to explore teams improvement, then NZ is just that. West Indies have actually won at home and against poor teams. NZ is included in that but at a time when they had massive internal turmoil.
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13 Dec 2013 14:23 #168247
by Rev Al
* Did Shillingford get the OK to bowl the doosra again ? He has been struggling without the doosra in his repertoire.
* Gabriel is quite ordinary and so is Cottrell---but I would give Cottrel a shot in the 3rd test.
* The person who needs to go is Darren Sammy----hopefully the WI will suffer another innings defeat in Hamilton----and then Sammy will be fired.
* Otis Gibson also needs to be fired---but that's another thread.
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13 Dec 2013 16:02 #168292
by Rev Al
* If Shilly is banned from bowling the doosra he is doomed to mediocrity.
* Only subcontinent bowlers are allowed to chuck and bowl the doosra.
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13 Dec 2013 21:47 #168361
by Kyle
I don't think Shilly is THAT dependent on the doosra tbf. I mean obviously it'd be a big blow if they ban him from bowling the doosra, but he's still good IMO. He can use his height to get the bounce and still gets to turn.
I agree though, I mean I haven't seen Shilly chuck anymore than Ajmal does, I mean to my naked eyes anyway.
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14 Dec 2013 10:41 #168373
by Rev Al
* In 14 tests Shilly has taken 65 wickets
* That's an excellent 4.64 wickets per test
* Great bowlers usually average 4 wickets per test.
* Shilly's doosra is like a secret weapon----he doesn't use it often----it gives batsmen something extra to think about.
* If Shilly can no longer bowl the doosra his productivity(wkts per test) will suffer.
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14 Dec 2013 12:19 #168398
by Rev Al
Remember folks! A West Indies defeat spells the end of Darren Sammy both as captain and as a test cricketer.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWuU9fxK7HVmSaYoBsQTBgc7LdwUN5o-CSGt-Ok2wEK6bwGBHX
* If you are a Sammy groupie---start hoping and praying for a miracle win by the Windies.
* But after a 3 day shellacking in the 2nd test---the confidence level of WI players is in the toilet.
* And so the probability strongly favors another sound trashing for Sammy and his boys.
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14 Dec 2013 12:21 #168400
by ketchim
Wrong !
Ottis is blaming the Players after 3 years and a contract renewal !
Sammy is blaming his Seamers.
There will be NO changes......in Coach nor Captain.
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14 Dec 2013 12:26 #168403
by Rev Al
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Both captain Darren Sammy and Coach Otis Gibson need to face the firing squad.
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