>

Zimbabwean coaches dominate world Test Cricket

More
04 Oct 2013 12:58 #157634 by chairman
LONDON (Zimbabwe Investor) – Since the famous whitewash ODI victory over England back in 1997 and the subsequent rebellion following the “black armband” protest by then captain Andy Flower and fast bowler Henry Olonga, Zimbabwe’s cricketing fortunes have taken a nose dive culminating in the withdrawal as a Test playing nation.

Since the return to Test Cricket, Zimbabwe has found itself reduced to battling at the basement of rankings with minnows Bangladesh. A far cry from the days when chicken farmer Eddo Brandes was sending England’s Michael Atherton, Nasser Hussein, Alec Stewart and Graham Thorpe scurrying for cover at the crease.

Any Flower: England head coach

While Zimbabwe languishes at the bottom of the pile on the pitch, the southern African nation can be proud of its achievements in the cricketing pavilions around the world. The country has supplied arguably the world’s most successful cricket coaches of the past 15 years in former captains Andy Flower and Duncan Fletcher.

Former Zimbabwe captain Duncan Fletcher is India’s coach

When Duncan Fletcher took over the reigns as England’s coach in 1999, he turned around the squad from a struggling outfit to winning series over West Indies, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and South Africa in the following 4 years. In 2004 he led his charges to 8 consecutive test wins, an English record, which included a 3-0 win over New Zealand and a 4-0 win over West Indies. He followed this up in 2005 with England’s first Ashes victory over long-time rivals Australia in 18 years. In 2011 he went on to be appointed India’s coach on a 2-year contract. In between his England stint and his appointment as India’s coach, Fletcher took a role as South African coaching consultant.

After Fletcher left as head coach of England in 2007, another Zimbabwean, left-hand batsmen and former Zimbabwe captain Andy Flower was appointed as assistant coach to Peter Moores. In 2009, Flower was asked to be interim head coach on England’s Caribbean tour following Peter Moores’ departure.  On return, he was appointed full-time team director which he followed up by leading England to another Ashes victory over Australia. A year later he led England in winning the 2010 ICC Twenty20 tournament before going away to beat Australia in the Ashes series in their backyard by three tests to one.

Andy Flower’s latest achievement as England coach was to retain the Ashes at home with an emphatic win against Australia. The Australians, since losing dismally to Flower’s boys, have turned to another Zimbabwean-born cricketer and former England batsmen, Graeme Hick as their high performance coach.

The achievement of Zimbabwe and its contribution to the international game is often overlooked but with Fletcher, Flower and Hick coaching India, England and Australia respectively, it means three of the top four test cricket playing nations are coached by Zimbabweans. Andy Waller, having taken the reigns as coach of Zimbabwe, makes it 40 per cent of all Test Cricket countries being led by a Zimbabwean or Zimbabwean-born coach.

Always tell someone how you feel because opportunities are lost in the blink of an eye but regret can last a lifetime.
cricketwindies.com/forum/

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Gina145
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
04 Oct 2013 13:46 #157641 by Gina145
While I'm not trying to deny that Andy Flower is Zimbabwean, having spent most of his youth and his entire playing career there, he was actually born in South Africa.  :)


Seriously though, in the days when Andy Flower and his brother Grant were still playing, Zimbabwe had a reasonably competitive team. There was a time when Andy Flower was the number one test batsman in the world, and Heath Streak was a really good allrounder.


After their success against Pakistan, hopefully the team are finally starting to rebuild, but it's good that Zimbabwe are at least making some contribution to world cricket.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • SpiralArchitect
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
04 Oct 2013 15:28 #157671 by SpiralArchitect

Wasn't Neil Johnson from South Africa as well. I remember that guy took the world cup 1999 by storm and was one of the best players in the competition, winning matches single handed for Zimbabwe.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Gina145
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
04 Oct 2013 17:12 #157678 by Gina145

Not exactly. He was born in Salisbury (in what was then Rhodesia) but grew up in South Africa and played a lot of his cricket here. The fact that he never made the South African team came back to haunt us when Zimbabwe beat us in the 1999 World Cup and Johnson won man of the match, starring with both bat and ball.

On the other hand Steve Elworthy, who played for South Africa, was born in Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). As far as I can remember he had an opportunity to play for Zimbabwe but chose not to take it.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
04 Oct 2013 17:42 #157682 by ramesh
All these successful  coaches who were former players in Rhodesia came from  a privilege  wealthy oppressor  class  that concentrated on cricket and nothing else since childhood  ..
They were basically parasites that live on the blood sweat and tears of      ordinary black  Zimbabweans and it was natural that they would become good at their craft. The only Black  player of note from  that era was Olongo who in the end became one of them.
The great man Robert Mugabe finally made things right by  making the Zimbabwe team a mostly black one/
Of interest is that now even South Africa  is going to implement a Quota System and hopefully that team too will be a mostly black one

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Mail
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
04 Oct 2013 18:29 #157685 by Mail
So Gina does it haunt you when Pietersen and Trott lead to your demise?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Gina145
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
04 Oct 2013 19:13 #157686 by Gina145

I don't like that they're playing for England, but I find them both a bit irritating so I don't let it bother me too much. Besides, we're the number one test team right now.  :)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Time to create page: 0.407 seconds
JulieFormer Jets and Commanders WR Laveranues Coles completed nine months of training at the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Academy and will officially become an officer after his probationary period ?(02.12.2025, 14:36)(14:36)0
JulieHeartbreaking to hear of the passing of former England cricketer Robin Smith ?

Our thoughts are with his friends and family at this difficult time ?

Rest in peace, Judge ?
(02.12.2025, 12:56)(12:56)0
JulieJUST IN: Andre Russell calls time on his IPL career and will join KKR’s support staff for 2026 ‼️(30.11.2025, 14:06)(14:06)0
TravisShoppers spend billions on Black Friday to snag holiday deals, despite wider economic uncertainty(29.11.2025, 17:11)(17:11)0
TravisSnow, rain and cold in store for some Thanksgiving travelers(29.11.2025, 17:10)(17:10)0
TravisThe pitch at Perth Stadium was rated "very good" despite a two-day finish in the first Ashes Test(29.11.2025, 10:57)(10:57)0
TravisWe are two days out or so from the start of the New Zealand vs West Indies test series.(29.11.2025, 10:51)(10:51)0
TravisPat Cummins did look brilliant in the nets over in Perth but will only be readier for his return come the 3rd Test in Adelaide, which should work perfectly for Australia, especially now that they’re 1-0 up going to the Gabba(29.11.2025, 10:41)(10:41)0
JulieSad news: Thirty minutes ago in Dallas, the family of former Dallas Cowboys icon Drew Pearson, aged 73, unexpectedly announced that he has passed away(29.11.2025, 08:00)(08:00)0
TravisPat Cummins is set to be included in Australia’s squad for the upcoming second Ashes Test against England in Brisbane, according to reports.(28.11.2025, 15:19)(15:19)0
TravisSuspect in shooting of National Guard members now facing a first-degree murder charge(28.11.2025, 14:24)(14:24)0
TravisLake effect snow piles up in Great Lakes region, impacting Thanksgiving travel(28.11.2025, 08:50)(08:50)0
TravisChiefs vs. Cowboys preview Week 13






Perhaps the most perplexing aspect of AT&T Stadium, otherwise known as “Jerry World,” is the glare from the sun that bursts through the windows and shines directly onto the field. Time and time again the glare has impacted players’ visibility during games, yet Jerry Jones refuses to make any changes to account for the sun.

Rather than install curtains, Jones has previously said he feels it’s a home-field advantage to have that type of stadium factor impacting games. Well, the glare ended up benefitting the Chiefs early into Thursday’s Thanksgiving game, as a pass from Dak Prescott to George Pickens fell incomplete, at least in part due to the impact of the sun’s glare.
(27.11.2025, 21:18)(21:18)0
TravisAT&T Stadium Glare Led to Plenty of Comments From NFL Fans During Chiefs-Cowboys(27.11.2025, 21:17)(21:17)0
TravisKittitian allrounder Kunal Tilokani earns U19 call upKittitian allrounder Kunal Tilokani earns U19 call up(27.11.2025, 13:19)(13:19)0
Travis'Wanted them to really grovel' - SA coach Shukri Conrad on keeping India on the field(25.11.2025, 18:29)(18:29)0
JulieHi(25.11.2025, 08:45)(08:45)0
Juliemotie 130 notout guyana 250(25.11.2025, 08:44)(08:44)0
Matthewhi(25.11.2025, 07:00)(07:00)0
Julie19 wickets fall between Aus and Eng and it’s great cricket, 19 wickets fall between W.I and any other country and we should be relegated…the double standards in world cricket.(21.11.2025, 06:40)(06:40)0
Travisketchim?(12.11.2025, 17:40)(17:40)0
Traviskwami?(12.11.2025, 17:40)(17:40)0
Traviswho is this(12.11.2025, 17:39)(17:39)0
AlvinChairmsn, I cant Log in(11.11.2025, 17:16)(17:16)0
SerenaThis batting performance by the West Indies in the second innings blew me away. I kept closing my eyes and then rubbing and opening them again and sat transfixed as I watch that unbelievable partnership between John Campbell and Shai Hope. What a magnificent performance by these two! It just goes to show that patience, determination and effort can go a long way to improve the performances of the West Indies team. Let us hope that this effort by West Indies batsmen would not be a one-off performance, but will be the beginning of a renewed effort to improve the performances of the team, going forward.(13.10.2025, 09:28)(09:28)0
SerenaJohn Campbell breaks a 23-year drought for West Indies openers with a Test hundred in India!

#INDvsWI #INDvWI #JohnCampbell
(13.10.2025, 05:49)(05:49)0
SerenaLet's celebrate that Ind will have to bat again as a notable achievement(13.10.2025, 05:32)(05:32)0
SerenaDefeat in Ahmedabad, we move to Delhi with an aim to the level the series.

#INDvWI | #MenInMaroon
(04.10.2025, 10:38)(10:38)0
Serena? USA Cricket Files for Bankruptcy

The Chapter 11 filing makes it the first known ICC member to declare bankruptcy. ⚡?
(03.10.2025, 12:22)(12:22)0
SerenaA maiden test wicket for Khary Pierre ends a challenging day 2️⃣

#INDvWI
(03.10.2025, 12:15)(12:15)0
SerenaWhy is WI best batter batting at #6 and why is he even keeping wickets in test?(03.10.2025, 07:26)(07:26)0
SerenaGive warrican vice captain on wat basis the man does nothing not even help chase(03.10.2025, 07:10)(07:10)0
SerenaWI waiting for declaration. India most likely will declare if or when both Jurel and Jadeja get to their 100s.(03.10.2025, 05:35)(05:35)0
Kade162 all out : India 121-2 stumps, day1(02.10.2025, 16:00)(16:00)0
Serenaif marriage certificate could get expire like driver's licence a lot of married men will never renew it(27.09.2025, 10:54)(10:54)0
WarrenJameis Winston is asked about being named QB3 on the Giants' roster behind Russell Wilson and Jaxson Dart:

"As a competitor, you want to be the starter. But I prepare to be the starter, I know I'm a starter in this league.

But you have to be able to be grateful for your role...my role right now is to assist Russ and Jaxson to be the best that they can be while preparing to be the best that I can be.

No matter if I'm 3, 33, this is my first year being number 19, so it's always a first for everything.

I focus on what I would love. And what I would love is for this team to have success."
(13.09.2025, 10:58)(10:58)0
Monicae(11.09.2025, 17:03)(17:03)0
RylandLol... Hetmyer. Fell agonizingly short of his century! Just 91 more he needed!(08.09.2025, 05:53)(05:53)0
RylandThe progress of the PPP government should not be judged by the dissenting voices of a few, but by the tangible benefits it has brought to everyone.(02.09.2025, 17:51)(17:51)0
Warren2 firefighters battling Washington state wildfire arrested by Border Patrol(29.08.2025, 10:51)(10:51)0
SalvadorPresident Ali hints at possible Christmas cash grant(27.08.2025, 12:36)(12:36)0
Sierrahi(27.08.2025, 12:07)(12:07)0
SergioWhat food could you eat every day of the week because you love it so much?(25.08.2025, 13:41)(13:41)0
KingsleyIsrael strikes a Gaza hospital twice, killing at least 20, including journalists and rescuers(25.08.2025, 11:27)(11:27)0
KingsleyShubman Gill returns to India's T20I squad as vice-captain for Asia Cup(20.08.2025, 12:54)(12:54)0
KingstonCanada's government forced Air Canada and its striking flight attendants back to work and into arbitration Saturday after a work stoppage stranded more than 100,000 travelers around the world.(16.08.2025, 18:08)(18:08)0
KingsleyGovernment papers found in an Alaskan hotel reveal new details of Trump-Putin summit(16.08.2025, 17:59)(17:59)0
LawrenceI'm confused how a cemetery can raise its funeral prices and blame it on the cost of living. ?(15.08.2025, 07:03)(07:03)0
LawrenceNext up West Indies play Nepal in a 3 match series (T20i), starting on the 27th Sept.(13.08.2025, 13:49)(13:49)0
JayleeFor the first time since 1991, we have won a bilateral series v Pakistan!??

What a win!?
(12.08.2025, 16:57)(16:57)0
Jace
Go to top