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Largest study ever of Ivermectin finds the drug to have no effect whatsoever

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12 Aug 2021 15:55 #391910 by TRINI_DADDY
From the Los Angeles Times (www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-1...ctin-no-effect-covid)

"Ivermectin, the latest supposed treatment for COVID-19 being touted by anti-vaccination groups, had “no effect whatsoever” on the disease, according to a large patient study."

"Among the thousands of patients in the study Ivermectin showed “no effect whatsoever” on the trial’s outcome goals — whether patients required extended observation in the emergency room or hospitalization."

"Earlier peer-reviewed results from the Together Trial related to the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, which had been touted as a miracle treatment for COVID by then-President Trump, were published in April; they showed no significant therapeutic effect on the virus."

"The findings on Ivermectin are yet another blow for advocates promoting the drug as a magic bullet against COVID-19. Ivermectin was developed as a treatment for parasitical diseases, mostly for veterinarians, though it’s also used against some human parasites."

"The Ivermectin camp is heavily peopled by anti-vaccination advocates and conspiracy mongers. They maintain that the truth about the drug has been suppressed by agents of the pharmaceutical industry, which ostensibly prefers to collect the more generous profits that will flow from COVID vaccines."

"The problem, however, is that the scientific trials cited by Ivermectin advocates have been too small or poorly documented to prove their case. One large trial from Egypt that showed the most significant therapeutic effect was withdrawn from its publishers due to accusations of plagiarism and bogus data."

"Nevertheless, the advocates have continued to press their case — without necessarily observing accepted standards of scientific discourse. During the symposium, Mills complained that serious researchers looking into claims for COVID treatments have faced unprecedented abuse from [conspiracy] advocates."

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12 Aug 2021 16:21 - 12 Aug 2021 16:25 #391912 by ketchim
TRINIDADDY, Thanks I have been saying that as well

same with HydroxyChloroquene ......

BUT the Conspirators have been bullshitting Billy Shatine !

www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/coronav...)-hydroxychloroquine

WHO does not recommend hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19.

This recommendation is based on 30 trials

with more than 10 000 COVID-19 patients.
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12 Aug 2021 19:49 - 12 Aug 2021 19:49 #391933 by Billy Shatine
Then Why Have They Banned it Out?

ALSO INDIA HAS MOVED TO IVERMECTIN USE STRONGLY! AND QUININE NOW ALSO, ESCHEWING THE VACCINES!

IS THE INDIAN MEDICAL ADMINISTRATION AWARE THAT IVERMECTIN IS USELESS AGAINST COVID?19
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12 Aug 2021 20:21 - 12 Aug 2021 20:24 #391941 by TRINI_DADDY
Do these people seem sane to you, Billy: mirror.fro.wtf/reddit/post/3201037 ?

By the way, you are spreading fake news in your comment above.

India has not "moved to use Invermectin strongly".

India's Health Ministry approved dozens of drugs to fight covid on April 22nd. Invermectin was one of these. It was recommended for asymptomatic patients, and those with mild symptoms. We do not know how many Invermectin tablets were given out.

When studies began coming in showing that Invermectin has no effect on covid, and that the drug had been functioning as a placebo (it has no effect on the patients, and is only effective when toxic levels are administered), India stopped recommending the drug in the first week of June (amongst other drugs like Tocilizumab).

So Invermectin was recommended for only about 31 days in India.

Conspiracy sites will then claim that "Invermectin nevertheless caused covid cases to drop during those 31 days", but this is stupid. Invermectin is administered to people already WITH covid (and so would have no effect on lowering the national levels during those 31 days), we have no data on how many doctors administered it (and so the conspiracy claims are baseless), and any hypothetical positive impacts would not occur during those 31 days anyway, but occur weeks after (if the drug worked, we should see cases dropping AFTER 20 to 31 days, and yet India's stats showed the complete opposite; infection rates went up).

But of course conspiracy theorists don't care about nuance, complexity or facts.
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12 Aug 2021 20:40 #391944 by Billy Shatine
I stand open prepared to be corrected or change at all times because there is so little reportage that can be trusted on all issues currently Covid worst of all!

a couple of weeks ago I saw the report on Indian moving back to Ivermectin and I reported basically what I saw. if you are right I stand corrected. if you are not I will find out because I am always looking but have not had the time to get back to India.

About the Citizens and the Governor; I see no crazy people there. as Citizens go they are par for the course, varied, different etc. but they are all agreed apparently that the vaccines are not to be trusted unless they are fully aware of what it will do to their bodies.

sane and right concerns as I see it. by life long experience...by historical experience, which government do you know can be trusted... or could and cane be trusted by the citizenry. of course there are ones here and there that could have been but the vast majority were tears in the trust department

But I like those people. they were firm, loud enough and in total distrust of their leader. that's a fine and right political stance period! especially in the USA

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12 Aug 2021 20:48 #391945 by Billy Shatine
''By the way, you are spreading fake news in your comment above.

India has not "moved to use Invermectin strongly".

India's Health Ministry approved dozens of drugs to fight covid on April 22nd. Invermectin was one of these. It was recommended for asymptomatic patients, "


Quoting you I like that you have used the Indian Health ministry as a source of authority to back up you claim of spreading false information. I like that although it does not have to be factual. But we can start there as we will in time determine what is indeed what

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12 Aug 2021 20:59 #391946 by Billy Shatine
"From the Los Angeles Times (www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-1...ctin-no-effect-covid)

"Ivermectin, the latest supposed treatment for COVID-19 being touted by anti-vaccination groups, had “no effect whatsoever” on the disease, according to a large patient study."

Please not that the American press/media, and just about everything from inside that country hold no credibility for me at all. They start guilty with me and must prove themselves innocent and credible.

YET THE FACT STANDS THAT THE AMERICN GOVERNMENTS, MOST OF THE STATES HAVEBANNED OUT IVERMECTIN.

THAT IS THE FACT WE MUST FACTOR IN SOMEHOW...EXPLAIN THE HOW AND WHY OF IT! WE MUST KNOW WHY!

THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO REASON AT ALL TO BAN IT OUT, IF THE SUBSTANCE HAS NO EFFECT ON COVID AT ALL! AND THAT IS WHAT THEY WANTED TO PREVENT... A CHEAP AND FAMILIAR SOURCE OF POTECTION READILY, EASILY AVAILABLE TOTHE PUBLIC, THAT WOULD PRECLUDE NEED FOR THE MORE EXPENSIVE NEW VACCINES

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13 Aug 2021 00:23 #391954 by Billy Shatine
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

Data Sources:
Data were sourced from published peer-reviewed studies, manuscripts posted to preprint servers, expert meta-analyses, and numerous epidemiological analyses of regions with ivermectin distribution campaigns.

Therapeutic Advances:
A large majority of randomized and observational controlled trials of ivermectin are reporting repeated, large magnitude improvements in clinical outcomes. Numerous prophylaxis trials demonstrate that regular ivermectin use leads to large reductions in transmission. Multiple, large “natural experiments” occurred in regions that initiated “ivermectin distribution” campaigns followed by tight, reproducible, temporally associated decreases in case counts and case fatality rates compared with nearby regions without such campaigns.

Conclusions:
Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.

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13 Aug 2021 00:29 - 13 Aug 2021 00:46 #391955 by Billy Shatine
rethinkingclinicaltrials.org/news/august...-trial-edward-mills-

The More I look at this: : Early Treatment of COVID-19 with Repurposed Therapies: The TOGETHER Adaptive Platform Trial (Edward Mills, PhD, FRCP The more of a fraud it is shaping up to be



www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93485
Awaited Ivermectin Review Is Out
— Findings are positive, but critics still want a large randomized controlled trial
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13 Aug 2021 00:59 #391957 by Billy Shatine
Very useful Ivermectin expert video Review

www.medscape.com/viewarticle/954681

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