Organ Donation

Some members of both religions have concerns about Welsh government proposals

to create the UK's first opt-out donor system. :blank:

It would mean everyone is deemed to be a willing organ donor when they die,

unless they have stated otherwise.

wheres the article?

and isnt the point about health care P-R-E-V-E-N-T-I-O-N :: :: :: :: ::


that is the basis of the latin american apporach..eating right, clean up the place, eliminating pollution, exercise..then non invasive approach to care.




my point as I have already explained is that organ donation is a crock.  organ donation is like blue boxes  in curing  pollution problem. 


what they organised with the blue boxes is turning the people into a source of profit for recyclers.  the people no freely separate out and organise the blue boxes free for the recyclers, a donation of their labour.


the recyclers get all this and the material to be recycled for nothing out of which they make huge profits for themselves and the people get back nothing.  we get more pollution instead of reduced pollution from the recycling.


you are blinded by the stated good intent behind things Nargis.  you have a real hard time looking at the reality on the ground, behind the moral and ethical propaganda

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-...-32064357/

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yes THAT CAN HAPPEN AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!

in an IDEAL situation...whats wrong with it? both parties have consented....whats wrong with it??????????????????????
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as I have explained there are situations in which organ donations is positive and commendable.


BUT THOSE SITUATIONS DO NOT CONSTITUTE MORE THAN A MINOR ASPECT OF THIS BUSINESS HERE UNDER CONSIDERATION

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and isnt the point about health care P-R-E-V-E-N-T-I-O-N :: :: :: :: ::


that is the basis of the latin american apporach..eating right, clean up the place, eliminating pollution, exercise..then non invasive approach to care.




my point as I have already explained is that organ donation is a crock.  organ donation is like blue boxes  in curing  pollution problem. 


what they organised with the blue boxes is turning the people into a source of profit for recyclers.  the people no freely separate out and organise the blue boxes free for the recyclers, a donation of their labour.


the recyclers get all this and the material to be recycled for nothing out of which they make huge profits for themselves and the people get back nothing.  we get more pollution instead of reduced pollution from the recycling.


you are blinded by the stated good intent behind things Nargis.  you have a real hard time looking at the reality on the ground, behind the moral and ethical propaganda
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SAY WHAT???  ::rofl:: ::rofl:: ::rofl::

ME???? what are you smoking?  ::rofl:: ::rofl:: ::rofl::

You have a serious problem in comprehension. I said in an IDEAL situation. which you havent given me any ethical or medical rhyme or reason as to why organ donation is bad.

i am well aware of the consequences and what is occurring right now. but i am not asking that question.

I am just asking about organ donation in its purest form.

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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-...-32064357/
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now that i have read the FULL ARTICLE that shoudl have been posted to begin with! - the whole thing is fucked up.

I dont believe this is a religious issue but a moral and ethical decision.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20182517

Quote:[size=14px]i am well aware of the consequences and what is occurring right now. but i am not asking that question.[/size][size=14px] I am just asking about organ donation in its purest form.[/size]

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WELL THEN...HEAR THIS!


as your cant get it from me..and apparently from anyone else ..why don't you tell us what is organ donation in its purest form..including the ethical, moral and religious basis for it then.

  maybe then we can see what you talking about and move on in greater clarity[/size]

and yall want merica donate to the world