Is it time for the West Indian nations to go it alone?

"The whole inter-island differences and "West Indies is not a country" reason is seriously overplayed when trying to explain why the West Indies are not competitive as a test team.
The West Indies have never been a country - its not like all of this kicked in post 1995. Inter island rivalries have always been there - West Indian sides pre-1995 were able to rise above the inter island differences and play as a cohesive unit.

The cultural differences between the various islands are not as great as they are in India for example, where there are huge cultural differences between North and South Indian states. India is really an multi ethnic union (forged rather artificially out of the dying embers of the British Empire) of different states who are linguistically and culturally very different to one another. Yet India are able to field a competitive team." - Sallah Muddin

I didn't even bother to read the whole article but I consider Mark Nicholas to be a well respected, impartial and fair writer as well as a fair commentator ......... yes I've long since said 'bruk it up' since it's done now..

As regards to being from different islands/countries etc... not that different from the vast country of Australia, though an island/continent pretty much is as vast as the WI represents and there is always controversy/talk about the selection business and serious rivalry of states ......Victoria/New South Wales/South Australia/Tasmania/Western Australia etc. as often stated in the commentary box ...

So not much different except AUS players are exceptionally proud to wear the 'Baggy Green' despite which state they are from unlike nowadays WI players from different regions ...

'Bruk it up' ...... nostalgic, victory days done !!!  .........

So then the divisive situation should be a lot less .........

the west indies are a natural unit, a nation that should be formed and will be formed as long as nation states remain the human way to go.

divide and rule is still imperial theory and practice and it is important to see how the west indian unity was broken and is maintained to this day.  the example of the growth of the wicb bureau as the source of death of the cricket and massive regional  divisiveness is instructive

we have a bureaucratic social reality in the west indies in which the social power is centred in the bureaus.  and like such bureaus everywhere, as well as historically, these bureaus have vested interest in their own survival.  and that is how they exist... in protecting and developing their own survival structural

that is the simple reality we all live..under the domination of powerful bureaucratic states that have now merged with global corporations to solidify their existence. 

corporations and government bureaucracies have the same interest.  they are both concentrated monopolies living off the people.  they are parasitic, do not produce themselves the means by which they live and dominate.  their interest is in keeping the people in a position in which they do the work by which we all live, for the smallest possible part of that very production.

that means police state and all manner of surveillance and coercion on and of the people.  and government and corporations  are joined now in that endeavor..making a world safe for them.

what this also means is that there can be no alternative formations to challenge that status quo.  that is what they are doing in the world, have always been doing..reducing and preventing all nationalist agglomerations of smaller into larger social entities, and breaking up by force those already large enough to fight back, to develop as an alternate source of social example and development,  to what the imperium provides.  the empire wants no alternatives.  its their way or no way at all.

that is what lil Bush meant when he said...'you are either with us or you are against us!'  that is the basis of the battle between China/Russia and the west..which model will survive and dominate...the corporate/bureaucratic/imperial dystopian state... or a democratic multi-polar world in which all nations are secure and operate in general cooperation.

the west indies remains divided because our bureaucracies are comprador and work against the very idea on which they are established..to look after their people and to accomplish the projects that effect good progressive  reality for them. 

one such project is the very regional unity we are on about.  west indian governments work against regional unity rather than promote it.

there is an actual west indian elitist nation at the top of west indian society.  but they limit it right there. nothing for the people.  that is how their masters want it to be..divided, divisive and hostile at the bottom to the middle.  at the top they all know each other, love their regional power and privilege.

they do not have to line up at customs and face the prejudice of jackass customs officials.  and they have the money to  use, for the incredibly expensive costs of travelling around the region with their own level of west indians.  they intermarry, run the business and the governments in the region.  but they will not make a regional unity because that is not what the empire wants. and a regional unity is not consistent with their vested bureaucratic interest.  or rather as long as their is bureaucracy they are on top because they will run it whether it is regional or nationally particularized as it is now. but the empire does not want unification..it wants the particularization of all nations so there will be no opposition to their globalization

they fired no bullets...yet..in Greece. but they have smashed that country to bits using financial means.  they fired bullets in Libya and smashed them too.  no chance Libya will be re-forming a viable nation anytime soon. 

same with all the countries america is militarily involved with/in at the moment.  their aim is maximum destruction..essential infrastructure in particular - hospitals, water systems, electricity grids... and deaths of ordinary people... so when they are done the states themselves remain totally without viability. 

that is their aim...not to regime change although it is indeed a kind of regime change...rather destruction of the regime and the elimination of any chance there will even be a nation far less a regime that runs it... when they are done

what they really want is Libya and Greece, afghanistan, Iraq..to smash nations, to destroy nations, to drive them back so they can never be opposition to the empire.

that is the source of west indian implosion. and our boys have merged with them to effect and maintain west indian separation, disunity, and regional hostility among the ordinary citizens of these states

there is a west indian nation.  that is why we have held together for so long.  but they will not let it rise if they can help it.  and as such skameron is also their bwoy for in smashing the cricket he has almost killed the strongest west indian unifying factor of all..the game of cricket and our history in it

and posters likeour own KETCHIM work for them too..the imperium.  what is the proof ::confused::  obvious.

Ketchims is always promoting the break-up of the west indies and never poses the obvious resulting question...BREAK UP TO WHAT ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused::

break up into a 'passel' of totally frustrated cricket states, forever stuck in cricket dungeon..with not even the slightest possibility of ever rising above minnow status.

what an incredibly negative prospect this ketchim pushes here in these pages!!!!!!

I never thought I would see anything like that from one of us..rabidly proselytizing  our own doom.  ketchim never misses a minute any opportunity at all to push this incredibly ridiculous alternative.

incredible

Insularity , Folks

OZ despite geographic separation are not different countries.


As sure as I am sitting here , INSULARITY and a tad of ETHNICITY


spells the DOOM of the so called West Indies !

In·su·lar·i·ty  noun

ignorance of or lack of interest in cultures, ideas, or peoples outside one's own experience.


with 6 different Countries and Selectors NOT from 3 or 4 : we have a Corrupted policy

throw in the Indo Caribbean factor versus the Afro Caribbean

racism raises its ugly head in the selection process.

BREAK IT UP !!

That's a cool photograph in the original post, by the way.

I think if the islands were to go it alone, only Trinidad and Barbados would have success. Trinis can field good ODI, T20 and Test teams. They also have a good balance between spinners, batsmen, cow-lashers and pacemen. They're also very driven, and have little God-complexes. Barbados can field a good test team too; strong batting and pace attacks and the best clubs in the Caribbean. Guyana might be able to field a good test team, too, but they don't produce fast bowlers (Guyana's domestic success is mostly due to the other islands being unable to play spin). The rest of the islands are pretty disorganized.