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12 Feb 2014 15:59 #177750
by ketchim
Speak about yuhself :
You had to marrid that black gyal that took you off de shelf !
jeeezzz.....
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12 Feb 2014 16:07 #177757
by ketchim
One ? steewwwpppsss......
Look bannah,, I gats punani lined up for every day of de week !
You keep that ONE and hope she doam horn yuh stupid azz..... :-[
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12 Feb 2014 16:15 - 12 Feb 2014 16:25 #177764
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Ramesh,
You are quite entitled to your opinion, except your mode of getting there seems to supersede normal bias.
However for the purposes of outlining a few points to you I shall ignore that.
In cricketing terms, I think players are great based on their cricketing prowess and as a human being.
I know you are young and would not have had the opportunity to see either Kanhai or Sobers and that should not be held against your however it have seen much of sobers and Kanhai and all of Vivian's career. However to comment on your Kanhai, Vivian comparison.
Both destructive batsmen. Vivian was always aiming to be ruthless whereas Kanhai was ruthless but humble and elegant in his stoke play.
Kanhai was to cricket what Ali was to boxing. Kanhai was the first of a kind, handsome, dashing, innovative in his stroke play, game changer. Kanhai coined shots for the rest to follow. Kanhai was destructive but elegant.
Vivian was equally destructive but ruthless rather than elegant.
As a captain Kanhai was tactically good, inclusive and calm. Richard was ok as he had a great team but was not inclusive by his actions and comments. Personally I have seen several incidents where Vivian, at best, made a right ass of himself in public. You just have to look at his behaviour at his 60th birthday celebrations held by the WICB.
As a human being Kanhai was approachable, calm and would always make time to sign autographs in his quietism but amiable manner.
Vivian seemed far too arrogant 7-11 and whilst, like Kanhai, no one could doubt his cricketing prowess he was not liked in the same way Kanhai was.
So for all round greatness, it is hard to divide them on cricketing abilities although Kanhai was a trail blaster.
However the 70-71 Indian visit was an interesting series where Gavaskar made his debut and it is almost 43 years to the day when R.B. Kanhai prevented a disaster at Sabina, where I was present, scoring a 150 in the second innings having scored a 50 in the first.
So both Vivian and Kanhai were exceptionally gifted batsmen, all out attack and team men wanting the win. True West Indians.
On captaincy and as a person, Vivian fails miserably.
So based on my definition, which many seem to concur, Rohan Kanhai is a true great.
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12 Feb 2014 16:23 #177769
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I Have never denied that Kanhai is one of the greats but when you praised him and in the same breath denigrate a great one like Richards then I spot a double standard'
List the awful things that Viv was supposed to have done and I Will defend every one of them
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12 Feb 2014 16:27 #177772
by ketchim
BTW ...who de ass give u a name like Jeumayne !
Mother or absentee father ?
I see yuh wife an kid is your pic on Facebook ... :-[
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12 Feb 2014 16:35 #177778
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Oye , y'all black people really Wrong and Strong .
nothing has changed sine I left in de mid 70s..... :
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