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Was Kallis better than Sobers?

  • mapoui
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28 Dec 2013 22:40 #170640 by mapoui

easyrider pick Kallis!

wot a sooprise?

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29 Dec 2013 06:16 #170643 by easyrider
Well done to the great man ending on a high note and might have set up a South African win.

Declare at tea 160 ahead maybe a result for RSA.

In the process the great man had overtaken Dravid into the third highest run scorer in Test match history.

Shame he got out when he did as he might have overtaken Ponting.

Great career dankie vir die herinneringe.

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29 Dec 2013 11:05 #170649 by Rev Al

Mappy:

* THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE.

* Kallis was a more productive bowler than Sobers.

* Check the stats:

BALLS BOWLED: Even though Sobers played in 69 less tests than Kallis----he bowled 21,599 balls vs 20.232 for Kallis

WICKETS TAKEN: Kallis took 292 wickets vs Sobers 235----remember Kallis bowled less balls.

BOWLING AVERAGE: Kallis 32.65; Sobers 34.03

STRIKE RATE: Kallis took a wicket every 69 balls; Sobers took a wicket every 92 balls


BOTTOM LINE:

Kallis was a more productive bowler than Sobers
the numbers don't lie.


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29 Dec 2013 11:49 #170654 by Kwami
Yea and Sobers also  took a lot of wickets against Bangladesh  Zimbabwe  and a weak Sri lankan    team
Throw in the Westindian  team there for good measure as well.
In this case the numbers don't only lie, it does so blatantly and barefacedly.

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29 Dec 2013 13:41 - 29 Dec 2013 13:55 #170662 by mapoui
and again the key to the bowling part of the issue may be this...I don't remember once Kallis taking the ball and winning a game for RSA.

correct me if I am wrong :)
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29 Dec 2013 13:50 #170666 by chairman

yes a very poor poor man sobers

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29 Dec 2013 14:13 #170672 by andy999
Kallis is the greatest allrounder of the modern era but he cant compare to Sobers.

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29 Dec 2013 15:01 #170680 by Rev Al

* No one with a functioning brain would say Kallis is a greater cricketer or allrounder than Sobers.

* But statistically---Kallis put up better numbers than Sobers in bowling.

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29 Dec 2013 15:19 #170683 by 00mg
Jacques Kallis? Lol.. Kallis is a very fine all-rounder for his era,  don't compare dwarfs with giants. And given Sobers' stature, I cannot think of more than 4 or 5 players through the game's history who can stand up and even dare look him in the eye. Jacques Kallis..ROFLMAO! Thanks for the laugh, folks. You are clearly clueless about the game.

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29 Dec 2013 15:44 #170686 by mapoui

I saieth not no to dat!  but dat doth not a greater bowler make of Kallis!
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