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16 Mar 2018 13:30 #361069
by myballfield
In Genesis 1, the earth was dark and without form. God said, "Let there be light," and light came. He called the light day and the darkness night. That was the first day. What’s interesting is that He didn’t create the sun and the moon until the fourth day. Yet, He had light on day one. How could that be? The sun is our source of light. God was showing us that He can bless you without a source. He can promote you without people being for you. He can heal you without the treatment. When you look at your situation, you may see all the reasons why you’re not going to get well, why you can’t break the addiction, why you can’t accomplish your dreams. You don’t have what you need, but God is not limited by what you don’t have. He doesn’t have to have a traditional source. He’s God. He controls the universe.
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16 Mar 2018 13:31 #361070
by ketchim
Why is Islam growing and spreading faster than Christianity ?
even in the USA, their fiercest Enemy : faster than the Episcopalian ?
forget y'all personal preferences for a minute and attempt an ANSWER !
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17 Mar 2018 07:30 #361090
by mapoui
the growth of a relgion is no big thing. when I was young Catholic was huge, big, growing. that ended and Catholicism has been in decline ever since.
in Trinidad american evangelism began to grow exponentially. there were churches opening up everywhere...... that too ended.
Islam is growing but what is islam?
in content and doctrine islam is the same as they all are. in fcat Islam is worse by way of authoritarianism from the top. and Islam over a spectrum of extreme to relaxed locks down the female gender most arbitrarily, denying humanity the full contribution of the female gender in its efforts to survive in nature..a truly horrendous fact
as we have seen women can be anything at all by ability. women have great skills, abilities in all fields of life. any organizing structure socially that denies women is anti life as a result
I used to know an imam from Afghanistan in Toronto who dove a taxi to make a living. he made me sick one day by explaining in the conversation about women in Islam. he said you can go anywhere for however long and everything is the same when you get back home..meaning your woman and you family is intact
but how are they intact..by the locking down of the woman, by force..she remains there in her burkha all day long doing menial tasks. she faces up to death for any deviation at all..deviation as defined by male dominated organizational strictures.
it struck me that woman, his wife was in a prison..and the man himself, the Afghan iman was a horrific human being, very authoritarian, voluble and clear horrifically violent if let loose in defense of what he believed in..or offensive in attack on those whom he saw as infidel
when one observes the practice of islam one is appalled. disagreement and critique of the religion can cost you your life. they killed Malcolm X horrifically in the USA in 1965 for his disagreement with the NOI and its leader
are all those joining up Islam....are they aware of how Islam treats dissent, evolving or developing disagreement and critique of the religion by muslims inside the religion?
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17 Mar 2018 07:43 #361091
by mapoui
my point is that everything we know comes from evolving human knowledge of nature.
ALL PRACTICAL, USABLE AND SAVING HUMAN KNOWLEDGE, SKILL, LIFE-SAVING HUMAN ABILITIES HAS COME FROM COMES FROM HUMAN INTERACTION WITH NATURE AND KNOWLEDGE FROM NATURE
ALL WE THINK, SPECULATE ON, THAT LEADS TO MORE AND MORE KNOWLEDGE AND SKILL, IS OF NATURE...NATURE. THE NATIONS AND PEOPLES THAT ARE MOST FACILE IN THE PROCESSES THAT LEADS TO UNDERSTANDING OF NATURE, WHO DEVELOP TECHNOLOGIES FROM SUCH KNOWLEDGE, HAVE BEEN AND ARE THOSE THAT LEAD HUMAN PROGRESS AT ANY AND ALL TIMES.
HISTORICALLY AND CURRENTLY THEY HAVE BEEN AND ARE THE GREATEST NATIONS, THOSE WHO HAVE ADVANCED HUMAN SURVIVAL TO THE POINT AT WHICH WE ARE STILL HERE IN EXISTENCE..A SUCCESSFUL SPECIES..THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OF ALL.
when these nations get old and past their best by date, their failure usually brings social decline into belief and mysticism, characterized by and featuring the rise of the people formerly held in check, enslaved, exploited. obviously these people having been kept it of the mainstream are backward, ignorant and consumed by revenge and belief..not sight but belief.
if these enjoy a temporary surge that is normal.but their future, the future of the world depends on them appropriating the best of what dominated them previously, and taking that forward into new progressive social organization the restates and re-establishes the domination of intellectual life by sight... and faith is pushed back to the edges of life where it belongs
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17 Mar 2018 07:50 #361092
by mapoui
there is no way in hell that muslim doctrine, dominant all over the planet is going to take humanity anywhere but to extinction.
will women continue to tolerate the domination of women that locks them out of life?
I doubt that. the more Islam comes out into the light the more the domination for women by the paternalistic faith will be highlighted..and the nearer the internal revolution that will free women comes
ketchim boasts about the expansion of Islam but he ought to know what expansion brings. any expansion has limits as do all things. when limits are reached they break asunder giving rise to that which replace them what in islam is eminently breakable...the way Islam treats women for sure.
so if Ketchim is old paternalistic muslim the very expansion he is boasting about will be the death of him
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17 Mar 2018 09:06 #361094
by mapoui
look at Iran..the most progressive Islamic country in the world..relative to the way islamic women are treated. they must cover their heads but not their faces.
and they can dress modern and uses beauty products. they go to school..to the highest levels and drive care. they can become professionally whatever they want
in Pakistan a muslim woman can become leader, to engage in politics etc. but looking at Iran I do not see a single Iranian woman anywhere near the seats of Iranian power. I do not recall women in the Iranian parliament..the Majlis
all of that is domination, exploitation, anti life and is the social mean of revolution to come. women and their male supports will revolutionize that in time for sure. and any and all reform and progress towards easing up on women only brings the final revolution closer
so that is my argument: nature is all, the template for life, sets the course and flow in existence and demands from humanity the essential responses for us to survive. if we do not respond organizationally in progressive manner we will not be able to come up with what is essential for us to survive in nature
THAT IS THE POINT....HUMANS CANNOT SURVIVE BY PRAYER AND BELIEF. IF YOU CANNOT GROW FOOD AND INVESTIGATE NATURE TO PRODUCES MEDICINES TO CURE DISEASE..YOU CANNOT SURVIVE FAR LESS SECURE THE HUMAN INCREASE IN POPULATION THAT GIVES US OUR BEST CHANCE TO GO ON INDEFINITELY IN NATURE
Religion can make sense only where it is consistent with nature. but where it is consistent with nature it is nature so why couch it in religion? the religious cover is unnecessary
but nature is god anyway..and ALL people are born with and endowed with the spirit of nature, of the universe in them, connected to the universe by the pineal gland in the middle of ones brain. nature is the one god already, the creator, the generator of all and everything. why do we have to go create something of our very own that is fake, unreal build all kinds of tendentious stories around it and insert it between human and natural nature
all the gods are fake. humans made these gods and everyone chose the people who make the fake god as their chosen people, above all other peoples... and the religious fights began and have not stopped since.
only nature is god and having made everyone there is no chosen of god...and all are imbued with and by nature as spiritual, carrying the spirit of nature in them...ALL OF THEM... OF US.
this is the great and everlasting contribution of black people, of africans who from the very start made philosophical conceptions of go and nature based on nature itself. they knew of the pineal gland and our connection to the universe by way of it
and this is what ketchim appears to be very vexed about..blackness, african people and their/our basic contributions to human evolution..that I am a black man, accept that fact and feel free to speak about Blackness anytime I want to, think it necessary.
but he shud not be that way as he is muslim, a rep of the real god..the only god there is..a od even more than nature..and as the only god shud be the god of all..and ketchim as his rep on earth should understand all and be good to all.
BUT HE IS NOT IS HE..KETCHIM! AND THE MUSLIMS ALL OVER THE WORLD ENGAGED IN ALL MANNER OF MURDEROUS BEHAVIOR
we must never forget that while today Muslims may be reactionary given their exploitation by the white christian west..Muslims were just the other day dominat in the world and in that domination were aggressively, offensive and conquering,cruel and empirical, murderous and evil themselves, over much of planet earth
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17 Mar 2018 09:11 - 17 Mar 2018 09:13 #361095
by mapoui
and for the moment..the way I see Muslim doctrine goes I wonder if actual Muslims wrote it.
some of the muslim doctrine I know cannot do well of muslims in the world if they live by those commandments. and they do live by such commandments and do real damage in the world as a result.
WHO IN THE HELL REALLY WROTE THE KORAN..PARTS OF IT ..OR ALL OF IT?????
COULD IT BE THAT MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN MANIPULATED AT THE CORE OF THE RELIGION BY THOSE WHO ARE NOT MUSLIMS AT ALL AND WISHED THE RELIGION EVIL.. AND BY THAT AND FOR THAT REASON WROTE THE DEVIL INTO THE MUSLIM BIBLE?
I think that that is a very good question to ask..and try to answer too
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17 Mar 2018 14:07 #361099
by ketchim
Why is Islam growing and spreading faster than Christianity ?
even in the USA, their fiercest Enemy : faster than the Episcopalian ?
forget y'all personal preferences for a minute and attempt an ANSWER !
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17 Mar 2018 14:09 #361100
by ketchim
Trying to sift thru all the Verbiage above for a practical answer.
all I getting is uneducated crap !
AGAIN i ask : why is Islam the ONLY religion Spreading ?
while others are shrinking and remain stagnant ????????????????
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