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What's your take on religion

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12 Mar 2018 16:36 #360830 by mapoui
I saw an argument abotu the Jews/Khazars/Ashkanaze and their god Yaweh.

a man argued that the secret of Jews and their contempt for the Goys lies in a clever switch they have made very early. . they have managed to substitute their Village god Yaweh for the christian Universal god :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

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so deh know when we pray to their god it fills them with contempt and jocularity for they know we are praying to their god and he does not give a phuck about us. they are the chosen of dat god and he is the one we think is ours also.... but he is not

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12 Mar 2018 20:16 #360851 by Athanas
I want to support the notion that religion is very important. Without religion the world could come to an end.

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12 Mar 2018 21:15 #360852 by leapjoy
There are also two sides to every story, that includes religion. For the bad there is some good.

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12 Mar 2018 22:21 - 12 Mar 2018 22:52 #360853 by mapoui

the world will come to an end anyway..at some point in the future. we see a law of nature that establishes birth, death and birth again....

what is the mode of this constant, endless process....?
that is what we must find out.

you see man..the laws of nature all but prove there cant be the gods of the religions. the study of nature reveals undeniable logic. and part of that logic is 'deny what you prove to be truth at your own peril.

so to live by sight and not by faith. in a universe of constant movement to live blind is to collide with objects all the time, till one finally puts an end to you

can the religions stand up if their gods cant?
no they cant! their gods cant stand up to scrutiny..neither can the religions

how there can be a god of any religion.... where did it come from, who made it..if not, how did it evolve?

a god must be evolutionary... that is born and developed. given what we know of nature the only way a god can exist within the parameters of what we see going on, is that it was part of a species like us in nature, became intelligent and had to face its own contradictions, as we have faced ours, and continue to face them, deal with them.

if we do not resolve our contradictions successfully we will eliminate ourselves. if we do we may grow old as a species and die of natural causes as a collective..or discover a way to evolve and keep going. to do so means finding out if that is even possible in nature and applying it to ourselves. it means the developing/development of real power by humans way, above and beyond what we now know.

a god of the religions would would be one such life form that would have successfully evolved beyond anything we know, or can conceive of, beyond death, become infinite. yet a physicist like the great Wal Thornhill argues that what is finite cannot become infinite.

yet Rupert Sheldrake another scientist, a proponent of a branch of investigation of existence called Morphic Resonance ..argues that the location of consciousness is not in the body of any form of life, but the entire content of any individual. consciousness is located outside and around that entity

what Sheldrake argues is far from new but he and others are taking investigation of the phenomena much further than ever before.

Consciousness appears to be the only aspect of physical humanity that can survive death. as far as Sheldrake is concerned it does suggest an afterlife is possible..one that may be a sort of dreamlike state..an example of which is the quality of the dreams we dream when we sleep.

the point is all we know of any possibility of an after life comes from the study of nature..not revelations from god.

any certainty or near certainty comes from, and can come from only facts of life, from truth and KNOWLEDGE not from religious doctrine and revelation. that requires belief and faith..cannot stand up to scientific examination

how then is, or can religion be important, useful if all it requires is never-changing doctrine..and once reveald true for eternity...when life itself is opposed to that. life is evolutionary and no static belief can be useful to humanity..only developing fact about the evolutionary nature we live in..fact we can use to perfect our existence. the very principles of religion are opposed to life..are in fact anti life

and the doctrinal base of the religion itself is punitive so that if one falls astray of it one is punished. and the punitive system has 2 facets..one after life in hell..and the other, many forms of costly ostracism in life.

and what is the doctrinal base of religion, what is it that religions hold sacred that we are required to BELIEVE and follow, that is legal, legitimate and factual forever, never changes, is always right..even as understanding of natural life, nature teaches us that there is no such thing, fact and reality?

the we discover the fact of all the established religions... that they are vested interests..and that those vested interest are ends in themselves..i.e they make a huge powerful living off the people while producing no wealth themselves.

they are bureaucracies in fact and parasitic..very, very rich and powerful..and have become so over centuries of collecting tithes from their adherents, pay no taxes and buy up all sorts of wealth producing plant, start banks that get them even more filthy rich on usury..a sin in all religious doctrines that I know, yet the religions are neck deep in such sin.

and we see that the punitive system in all religions are to keep the religions going so as to continue endlessly meeting the end in itself..the continuation of the religions and the bureaucracies that feed off them

and if religion is to improve man..how is that goal effected or reached by the way the religions function..as above?

it is clear there is an actual gulf between what the religions preach and what they do..how they function routinely.

another particularly heinous practice of all religion is to to support war and to profit off war. they all do so big time. how can a religion profit off war when any god I know is supposed to be anti war..anti ALL WAR..not selective wars

so the ancient Africans did not make religion but philosophy and myth about life based on nature as the template of all life..that everything that exists is god, aspects of god, parts of god and god is everything altogether in its mode of existence..evolutionary as we have see. that is the basis for human collective, unity,organization of survival in nature. god in heaven does not organize all his children but selects the 'best' of them and lets them loose on the rest of us, to kill, plunder and oppress us

we can go on and on about the divisiveness of religion and we would be right..but right about here it is enough to conclude that there is nothing good about religion for all of humanity... but a lot that is good about religion for the minorities that organized them all... and used them to divide and rule mankind and use us like beasts of burden to labor to make sch minorities rich beyond any wildest dream
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13 Mar 2018 11:10 #360876 by midwicket
When the odds are against you—the obstacle looks bigger, stronger, more powerful—and you don’t have the resources or the connections, don’t worry. It's a setup. God is about to make things happen that you could never make happen. He’s going to turn that situation around without you having to fight the battle. He’s going to heal you without all the treatment. He’s going to promote you without the qualifications.

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13 Mar 2018 12:44 #360877 by mapoui

if this is not subject to a literal interpretation then it is sarcasm and sweet fuh dat!
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