Re: The Structure of Coloniality and how it Came to be

you are right about indians , they always managed to strive some how under the yolk of racism ,as from personal experience in guyana, but one of the unintended outcome of of these regimes ,  is that my black brothers and sisters suffers more.

you claimed that williams was not racist but explain to me how come williams scoured the whole eastern caribbean to lure black people to  settle in trinidad so as to alter the racial balance in  that country, jeez man even the mighty sparrow  my hero was born in greneda

about dat too yu are wrong.  yu attach blac failure to indian success. 

blac people are not stupid nor mentall defective when it comes to ability and capability to see and act in their interest or play the arse.

I sole of the structure of coloniality but the cultural reality it has spawned is a majar factor in blac asinity.  we have come to belive and live the bullshit dat has us enslaved.

that is wat colonilaity means and the article gives us insight into the rerality we live.

bacl at independence CLR James outlined the situation fully for the PNM and Eric Williams.  he warned of colonilaity citing it as th single miost dangerous factor facing the westindian people.  he spoke of building a unified comunity and developing the cultural means of producing or building a real dindependece democracy...on basi independent people-based economic powerer.

for instance jamse cited the crucial nature of having an independent media that reflected the peoples interest and the people s indentity..not thatg of europe and western ideals and identies as well as human models,  our people wold become the models in out media, everything would be rerported in outr way by us and consistent with out national; interst.

the people had to own it for that to happen and James outlines ways in which the people could come to own their media.

the tossed James from the PNM for that in particular.  Robinson, solomon and dem fellas went to the 'doctor' and said no way we can keep dat fella around.

dat was the first stake in the heart of blac people ensuring that we wud have no alternative to american propaganda, no defense against tthe development of 'coloniality'

blac people have all it takes to right-side up our ship.  it is clear why it does not take place.  there is still a struggle to set up the ship properly byut the traitors are now in the ascendancy.

we have to to do the job largely ourselves.  and where we do not have to do it in conjunction is where race and the class struggle intesecs fundamentally.

but tat is another long and involved story

I will never attach blacks failure to indian  success but the anecdotal evidence will show that indians  will find a way to thrive under any yolk and an example of this would be the country of Figi

you must admit that since independence trinidad was under the rule of black people and the situation that they are under are soley because of this fact , panday and kamla foot print as of now is negligible

this is wat I want yu to do Kwami:

go find the calypsonian Lord Blakie.  find a calypso arounf the late fifties to early sixties dat went like this:

"Move leh mih get mih share deh beating grenadians in woodford square"

dat kaiso reflects the social ambient of the times...small islanders werent welcome in Titty by the afro  population of Titty, led by afro politicians 

and again check the population of titty at the time...the afro majority was strong in Titty.  there was no need for williams to go anywhere to get numbers to equalise anything.

yu are repeating  'tory! not the story of wat actually was the case in titty.

and remember there was a fedeartion in which indians were a minority as well.  jamaica left.  if eric was so concerned about afro numerical superity he wud never have said 1 from 11 leaves 0. 

the federation was still going and cud have gone on without jamaica,  but williams scapped it.

and remember..williams got the federation going without indo support..assuming dat indians wud not and did not support federation for the very reason of increased minority status..which proves the african majority in Titty. 

but go check the historical demography and you will see for yourself

I have no idea wat yu mean by dat.  if you are prime minister of a nation you are responsible for all of its people.  dats your job.

kamla is prime minister of Titty...not prime mininster of and for indos

over and out, will continue another time

eric williams was a lot of terrible things...but racist was'nt one of dem. 

in a seious sense I wish he was.  the state of blac people in the region would probably have been better now  if Eric was a racist, concerned about our interests.

nobody stopped Indos in Titty. not a soul!  there was and is prolly still a lot if ethnic rivalry in Titty between Indo and Afros. 

but there was nener a hint, shred or anything of organised intereference and prevention of Indian forward movement when blac people had the power.

if there was we wud have had 2 westindian guyanas not just one. dats the only way you cyan organise those things.

Oh no !!  ::redcard::